Fear is normal and it’s part of life. I know things could be tough sometimes especially when it comes to our business but sometimes you just have to take action.
Are you oftentimes second guessing yourself with what you’re capable of? It could be like that especially when you’re handling a business. In today’s episode, I am joined by Stefanie Gass and we will be discussing how pivoting will eventually lead you to the right place.
It’s essential to understand that fear is inevitable and it will always be there but the thing you should focus on is taking action. You’ve been called to do something in your life and you should push through the barriers of life and keep on going.
If you’re someone who’s scared of taking action especially in your business, then this episode will shed you some light on the right mindset that you should have.
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Juliana Barbati 00:00
Hey, girlfriend, how you doing Bo? In today’s episode as we keep going with our pivot series, today, I’ve got a special guest, and it’s Stefanie Gass. Stefanie is one of the many coaches that I have. And we get to really hear her story in, I hope that the takeaway that you can get from this interview is seeing what pivoting can look like, once you let go of judgement, and really trusting yourself in taking every step of the way, as a clue for what’s what’s coming next. And really understanding that there’s literally no failure because you’re learning all these things, and you’re accumulating knowledge and that knowledge will take you somewhere, you know, so whether you believe in God or the universe or whatever floats your boat, understanding that we are put on this path, and we have all these lessons that we need to learn because later on, we’re going to put it all together and bless the world in a certain way. And just trust that God has a plan for you. So I really hope you enjoyed this interview. And that you can see the possibilities that are in pivoting instinct, flexible and learning from your quote unquote, mistakes. But just being open to everything that life has to offer us enjoy. Stefanie, I’m so excited to have you back on my show. You’re the first guest to be here twice.
Stefanie Gass 01:29
Well, I’m back. I’m so excited. I feel so special. And I Hello. Hi. Hi, everyone. Hi beautiful Juliana.
Juliana Barbati 01:36
Hi. So guys, Stephanie is my coach, if this podcast exists its because of Stephanie. She’s amazing. I have no words to describe stuff like she’s truly amazing. Yes, she has a gift of really channelling what God has in store for you and like handing it to you but it’s up to you to run with it, you know, to take what she’s telling you and to trust her which, for the longest time I resisted, by the way. And once once I like, surrendered into it, my business grew so much. But anyway, Steff, I wanted to have you back on the show, because you have a beautiful story to share. And I would love for you to paint a picture for us of what is possible, once you allow yourself to try things out and not being afraid of failure and not getting stuck in your mind, and like the what ifs of everything, so if you can talk to us about that.
Stefanie Gass 02:30
Yeah, I love that. And I think this is an important conversation for women to have. And even more important for women who want to be business owners, whether it’s ecommerce or starting your own business or making money from home. Fear is going to be inevitable when it comes to trying to get this to work because your heart and your mind, there’s actually an I don’t even know the pieces of the brain. But I heard a podcast the other day talking about there is wiring in your brains, that is wired to keep you safe, right. And so we’re constantly going into the comfort zone, part of our brain. And we’re saying I just want to stay here because it’s safe. You know, I want to be where I am. Because it’s not scary. There’s no fear of failure, there’s no fear of judgement. There’s no fear of not knowing the house. And those are, those are inherent to who we are as human beings. And so just know that you will face fear as you begin and or change in what you’re doing. And you are going to feel like everything in you is screaming, to not try at all. So know that that’s normal, and that all of us go through that to varying degrees. But here’s the thing that I’ve discovered after 10 years of being a full time entrepreneur, so I started in network marketing. And I did that for five years. And that was its own experience and journey of learning how to go from a corporate person, which in corporate i as well, I raised those are climbing ladders in corporate as well at a young age. And so those were scary pieces. And then the company shut down, went into network marketing, grew that to the top 1% of the company, then that crumble from underneath me and I started my own online business started coaching network marketers, which then led me into really seeking God and His hand and what does this supposed to be and look like? And pivoting completely away from what I was doing using Facebook Lives and speaking of network marketers to podcasting, and helping women faith led women get clarity on their calling, so they can build a profitable online business with God at the centre of it. I mean, there was so many different tweaks and pivots in that 10 year journey. And here’s what I’ve learned the biggest lesson through it all was if I can push through the fear and the unknown, my passive for being uncomfortable grows, my capacity for the discomfort in the pivot or the transition or the taking action without knowing the outcome. It expands so it’s almost like my fear receptors start to shut down at a much quicker pace. And now what’s interesting is like, I don’t know if you guys ever heard this, but the second that you, you share something that you’re holding inside, like a secret, or something that’s scaring you and you’re holding it in. It’s so big, the second it comes out of you, you realise like, it’s a breath of fresh air, it has no more power over you. That’s the same thing in a pivot or growing or starting a business. Once you get through it, you’re like, well, gosh, that wasn’t so bad. And so now when the fear comes at me, or the unknowns, I’m like, I’ve already been on the other side of that, I know that this is much smaller than what it actually is, the fear is what you’re afraid of, you’re actually the fear is fear itself, right. And so getting through to the other side, is actually conquering the fear and showing yourself your brain, your subconscious in your heart, that you can do that thing. And then your fear receptors grow.
Juliana Barbati 05:56
I totally agree with you and honestly, I think God is really showing me all the places in my life where I’m holding on to fear. And the places that are holding my body, like my shoulders are always tensed up at any given time like I always have my fists clenched for no reason, because I have so much fear that I carry with me, and I’m becoming more aware of that. And it’s all coming because I am taking the time every day to like, sit with God and do the inner work that I’m learning all the things that I didn’t know, and you’re I totally agree with you that when you speak about it, it like it loses its power, you know, and then you take action, you’re like, you know what, it’s not that bad. You know, it’s, I it’s okay, it’s totally doable. And another thing that helps me is like, looking back to see how far I’ve come, you know, and one thing that you always say stuff is put your head down and work, do not look up, do not look to the sides, just stay focused on what you’re doing. Head down and work.
Stefanie Gass 06:54
Yeah, yeah, those are all really important as well, I think one of the things that will magnify the fear in your life and that’s important first to ask yourself, why am I holding this fear? You know, Juliana, so for you, you’re saying like, oh, I find myself holding the fear. And fear can manifest in so many ways. It can be your body being tense, it can be anxiety, it can be different mental health stuff that starts to come up. It can be emotional outbursts, all of which is like why, because to me, those are my body giving me an alarm or Holy Spirit giving me an alarm of like, something’s off. What are you afraid of? And so if you can just look at the fear and be like, here’s something that I have done, that’s so helpful, I’m like, What’s the absolute worst thing that can happen here? And I’ll write that thing out. And then I’ll go can I will I make it through that? If I believe that God’s calling me to do the thing, even though it’s terrifying, and that’s the worst thing that could happen to me. I know, there’s fruit on the other side of the thing. And my, my MO has been like, I’m going to get through that as fast as I can because I don’t like to sit in the fear. I don’t want to sit in the anxiety and the tense, you know, in the having, like, I bite my nails, that’s my thing. And so I’m like, biting my nails, like, what’s going on? Why am I doing this? Oh, there’s something I haven’t addressed. You know, there’s something I haven’t looked at yet. I haven’t asked myself why I’m afraid of this thing. And so the second I can get over it, it’s like being a classical of 50 people and you guys have to stand up and do a paper, you have to do a presentation. I’m like, because if I don’t go first, I just raise my hand, I can’t see any. If I can’t go first, I’m going to sit there and wallow in my fear for an hour until it’s my turn, I’m going to get worse and worse, I’m gonna get more and more sweaty, I’m going to overthink it in my brain. And I’m going to start to create this narrative of this outcome. That is not reality. My brains telling me you’re afraid fight or flight, don’t do this, don’t do this. And so you’re you’re, you’re amplifying your own fear emotion. Instead of going out you can get this over with and then you can hang out, doing your business and taking action is the same thing. So sometimes I just have to take action. There’s been many, many scary things that I felt were going to be debilitating to me are going to pull the rug out from under my business or my revenue was gonna crumble. None of those things happen. My business is the best it’s ever been. There’s been so much growth, there’s been, you know, I’m making a huge impact. I truly feel that like God is leading everything that I’m doing. And it took me being able to continue pushing through these these scary fear barriers actually call them fear anchors to bust through the fear anchors in your life. And a big piece of that is you yeah, but the other pieces are to Juliana’s point earlier. Looking around. You know, one of the biggest fear anchors is when you start looking to the left into the right and going what’s Anna doing? Why is Mary having so much success? Why does Bob have 75 likes and I have one and you’re comparing, which is a fear anchor telling you well, you’re not good enough. You’ll never be like them, no one will choose you. There’s that person already doing that, all of which are lies that you welcome in to your life you’re welcoming lies into your life and into your heart. And you’re allowing them to anchor your feet to the ground. We are creating this narrative that is no, there’s zero truth in any of that. The only truth is you’ve been called to do the thing. So do the thing. Every thought in your mind is simply a thought. It’s zero truth of an outcome. Okay? The only outcome you can create is by taking action. Then you rewire the thought, because you go, oh, my goodness, that wasn’t what I thought. Wow, like, I got to the outcome. I launched the podcast, or I launched the ecommerce store. Oh, man, I created my first course. Oh, my gosh, I did get through my first client call. That wasn’t anything what I thought it was no, because your thoughts are created in lies around this weird narrative of your fear keeping you safe.
Juliana Barbati 10:53
Okay, so Steph, walk us through your evolution. So you were in corporate and then you went to network marketing? And then like, what, what did that look like? And in any stage of your intrapreneurship? What did the fear look like for you? And were you ever just kind of like, you know what, maybe I should just get a job or quit altogether? Like, walk us through that?
Stefanie Gass 11:16
Yeah. So what’s so interesting is, I think, as you become more and more mature, in your own calling, the fear becomes less and less. I distinctly remember when I went from corporate into network marketing, that fear being so debilitating, and the fear came from everyone is going to judge me. I’m leaving a six figure, corporate career, I have a double major in finance and accounting. I’m the youngest financial controller in this global company, to start a network marketing business, you know, like, Ground Zero $0, commission based zero, no experience in sales whatsoever. Hearing everyone tell me that it’s a scam, and that this is ridiculous, and go get a job, like, what are you doing? You know, and so, this fear of being ridiculed, and having people talk behind my back was so debilitating and, and it was so scary to me. And I remember having this feeling of like, I can’t fail, because everyone will be right about me, which now makes me laugh, because I’m like, I totally failed. You know, at the end of the day, like, whenever you’re on sale, because you learned so much, right? Right. But if you were to look at like on paper, it’s like, yeah, that didn’t work out four years later, you know, the rug was pulled out from under me. But the funny part of that is like, now I think it’s hilarious, because I’m like, that got I walked through those pieces. So I could use the failure as as training and as understanding for who God had me serve 10 years later, you know, but the point was, it was so scary. And it was all based on other people. So I had this fear based thinking that had nothing to do with me. It had nothing to do with what I was doing or who I was created to be, or this new thing that I wanted to try. It had everything to do with everyone else’s narrative that I made up in my head. What a weird thing to do, if we really think about that. We’re choosing to be afraid, based on an imaginary story that we create about what other people are thinking. And you know what the truth is, no one even cares what you’re doing. To be really honest, I don’t think anyone gave two poops. They’re like, cool, you’re gonna do that. Okay, well, like they’re in their own life. They’re in their own drama. Nobody cares. Nobody’s looking at me. And so there’s so much freedom when you finally realise I failed, no one even cared, no one even noticed, because they’re in their own life. Wow, I guess I can let go of these narratives that people are judging me all the time, because they’re not so that that was scary. But I did do the thing. And I did. I have this achiever, very leader driven heart, and I did it, you know, I did become successful in network marketing. And I didn’t do it the right way. I did it the world’s way. And, you know, it was definitely an idol in my life. And now, that was, I’m glad I walked through those things, though, because I understand where my woman is at my avatar is that because she’s often doing the same thing. And I think God uses the hard parts of our lives to allow us to equip others and free them from their prisons. So I sat in prison for a while and I’m okay with that. And that’s just what happened. And I woke up, and I realised, oh my gosh, there’s no more money in the bank. I poured my heart and soul into building this thing. And it’s gone. Who am I and I sat with this I have no idea who I am identity for a hot minute. And that was truly terrifying. That was probably the scariest point in my network in my entrepreneurial journey Juliana of like, you’re sitting there broken down with there’s no more costumes, you know, oh, I have the costume of success on I have the costume of I make all this money on I have the costume of achievement. All your costumes burned up, and you stand in there naked, like, who am I? Who am I behind the costumes? And I sat there in 2016 for a whole year. And that’s when it was like this huge pivot moment, you know of like, what am I supposed to do? And of course, I went to I should get a job again. I actually panicked and started making Amazon merch T shirts. So that was fun. Made $3 A shirt and profit $3 profit a shirt. And I remember this moment, my friend sent me down and she’s like, What are you doing? Like, what do you mean? What am I doing? I’m making Halloween T shirts right now spot to be Halloween season. She’s like, your, you are distracting yourself from the calling work that God’s asked you to do. Like, there’s so much there’s a bigger purpose on your life than doing these weird small things that I keep seeing you do and you’re panicking, stop. I was like, and you know, of course, you’re defensive. And your anger kicks in and your fear, your fear angers kick and I’m like, no, no, no, no, that’s not what I’m doing here. It was absolutely what I was doing. And so I decided to be done with all the ridiculous endeavours Juliana and really like, turn into the pivot. You know, like, what is God truly asking of me from a service perspective? Like, what does he want me to do to glorify His kingdom was the first time I had asked in a way that wasn’t about me. You know, who am I supposed to be? How am I supposed to make money? It was like, I think there’s more to this that I’m missing. And the question became, God, who are you calling me to be who I always been? And who am I called to serve? And how am i wow am I called to give to them? Just what kind of mom am I supposed to be? What kind of wife? How am I supposed to steward this body that you gifted me and like I had this, I had obviously come back to my faith in a big way at this point and surrendered because there was nothing left. Like I was truly a broken, broken place in my life. And I turned to God, thank goodness. And I just started hearing these whispers. And it’s like, turn into the pivot. You know, like, come home. Like you’ve always you’ve always been here, but you’ve been writing from from home, from what you really are. And so I just began, I think this is one of the coolest pieces of turning into this pivot or this this fear, if you want, you have to take action, because your mind is still screaming at you get a job, it’s easier. No, keep making the T shirts, because nobody knows what you’re doing. And you’re safe, you know? And I was like, No, I’m gonna turn into action instead of turning into fear. So I started trying stuff, you know, went live on the Facebook groups started serving the women, I knew I could help guiding them, showing them how to start these businesses or getting out of their way. How did I build this top like, I just started with what I knew. But then because I was starting God had something to work with in mould. It’s like, when you start, you’re like this blob of Plato. But there’s something there to work with, when you don’t start the playdough still in the case and the plastics on it, and God can’t mould you, he can’t do anything with it. So I finally put the plate on the table. And he’s like, cool, you know, work reworking here, we work you here, push you here, here you go. And so taking that action was one of the best things I could have done. And it was weird to say, three short years later, I truly believe I’m the woman God created me to be.
Juliana Barbati 18:23
So tell us a story of the time they had to borrow money from your son’s account and where you are now, after 10 years and pivoting in trusting God and working through your fears.
Stefanie Gass 18:37
Yeah, so that day was in 2016, the network marketing business had really crumbled. And I think the moral of that story, I don’t care if it’s network marketing, I don’t care if it’s something else. If all of your eggs are in someone else’s basket, you’re sitting in a bad spot. And I’ve learned that the hard way multiple times when I lost my job, when I the network marketing thing fell apart. Like, I need to be in control of what I’ve built, and what I’ve created, or at least have a few income streams that are completely mine. If you’re going to be I mean, if you’re going to be stable, that’s really the thing because you never know what will happen to someone else’s business that you’re just have your hand in their business. So I was living this lifestyle of, you know, like we were I was 30 and kind of a hot mess. And so we were doing all the fun things went to Vegas would drop $1,000 on a table or whatnot. And living this weird lifestyle thinking plus network marketing encourages that because they want people to see that you’re successful. And so they encourage you to do those things to buy the fancy bags to go spend money and post about it and hashtag Thank you network marketing, you know, which I did, because I thought that’s what you’re supposed to do. And I think that’s really sad about the industry. totally willing to call it out because I don’t think there’s anything wrong with that if you love the products, but do it in a heart, like a heart way, not in a glorifying this company way, because that will end up burning you. And it burned me and I sat there one day and looked at the bank accounts. Here I am, I had just had my second son 60 pounds overweight, I was having debilitating anxiety attacks, right at this point. Because I was losing my identity didn’t know who I was, the money was was gone. It had like dried up within six months, it was like, like, it went from 17k months to like, three. I’m like, what’s happening? What’s wrong with me? Because the harder I would work if I couldn’t replenish it, because it wasn’t mine. Right? I couldn’t control the people underneath me. And so I went to the computer, and I pulled up the bank account. And there was no money. And it was this really like gut wrenching moment of rock bottom. Like, what was this for? What was working at nine at night and five in the morning and ignoring my son and having this earpiece in 24/7 and making excuses to my husband, why I couldn’t be present with him and had to take the call like ruining dinners by pitching people to join my company in the middle of dinner. Like, why did I do all of those things to myself and my family. If there’s nothing left, and there was this like moment of like, the veil was lifted off my eyes. And I sat there crying and I walked out to my husband, I said there’s no money. And like, bless him because he’s like, we’ll borrow it from miles savings account, which had like four grand in it. So we pulled it out to pay the bills. And he sold his Harley Davidson to pay the bills and to cover us while I panicked and started selling Amazon T shirts and cried and a extra Nacho extra Doritos while I watch Netflix and wondered about the purpose of life for a year. And just bless him for for being with me through that hard time. Because when you hit rock bottom, it’s not like an immediate wake up call. I think you when you hit that there’s this period of rebuilding, you’re refined by the fire, right? And so I had to sit in the fire for a while until God’s like she’s ready. You know. And until I also surrendered, like, there was so much in me that wasn’t surrendering. It wasn’t like, oh, I put myself down here. Lord, would you mind pulling me out? He’s waiting for you to say that. You know, and I didn’t say that. For truly about a year, as I tried to pull myself out by my own strength. I’m not strong enough for that. And it was way too hard on my own. And so finally, in that moment, it was a moment of mourning in church. I had you know, Lord, please, there I don’t know, like, I don’t know who I am anymore. I don’t. I’m not finding any happiness in my life either. Because I thought my worth was in this business and all these, these things, these narratives were going on in my head. And I stood in church, and these worship songs were just going on. And like, really, it was almost the call to surrender at that point. And I just remember, like Holy Spirit washing through my body, and I had like, Holy Spirit goosebumps everywhere, and like, just started weeping. And just was in this full, like, raise my arms and surrender. And I’m like, I’m done. Like, Lord, my life is yours. My business is yours. My marriage is yours, my kids, they’re yours. And you love all of this more than I do. And I don’t know how to shepherd it. And I don’t know how to steward it. And I don’t know how to grow into who you want me to be. But you know, and it was this moment of like, I gave it over. And I’m a control freak. So that’s a lot. You know, like, Lord, please. And that was the day it all changed. And I began serving the woman. I began showing up, it was messy. I began going to the gym and taking care of my body began eating healthy, I began pouring into my marriage again, I began and I didn’t know the how and I didn’t know the outcome. Like, is this gonna make sense? Are we ever going to be able to fill these bank accounts again? Am I ever gonna be able to pay my son back? I didn’t know. But I just started. And what’s so crazy is through obedience, and through consistency, and through that action, and through constantly asking God, like, placed me on the path, like, Am I doing it your way, like, help me show me guide me bring me, you know, clarity helped me know what to talk about. And it was slow. It was very, very slow. But I kept showing up. And I kept asking him and then in October of 2018, I’d asked the Lord like, how do I really serve her in a way that’s godly? Like I’m not loving social media. I’m not loving the ways that I’m trying to do this business, but I know that you have an answer for me. And I had a dream and it said start a podcast was super clear. It was definitely a god dream. And I woke up. I’m like, alright, don’t know how to podcast. Don’t know what I’m gonna talk about. No, nothing plugged in the mic, started speaking. And here I sit three short years later, three short years, later on, I have a half a million dollar business, we’re able to tie that a large capacity give, I’m able to, we’re almost fully out of debt completely. We have two years left on the mortgage, I have a team of women that helped me, I have 1000 students, I have 20 recurring clients, my son Ben paid back plus interest. You know, like, To God be the glory, because this is not a business I could have built by myself. This is a business that he built, you know, and I am simply just a vessel for what God’s asked me to create.
Juliana Barbati 25:32
Know, your story is truly amazing of what’s possible. You know, and when you just trust, you know, when you and you keep taking the steps forward, right, because what we cannot do is just sit here and pray for clarity. We have to pray for clarity, but do the work, you know, because it’s not just you have to take steps and you’re gonna play no, yeah, be willing to mess up and don’t think you’re messing up. Because you’re learning things, you know, you’re learning things and forgive yourself. Forgive yourself for the so called mistakes you make and move forward. Because if you just sit there in the murky water, you’re not gonna move forward.
Stefanie Gass 26:06
Yeah, and everything will tell you to not move forward. The biggest thing here is like I had to keep pushing through so many times in that 10 year span, I could have just given up completely, it’s too hard. This isn’t working, I’ll just go back to work. Or, like, look, I failed again. You know, what are people thinking of me now? Or I don’t know how this thing is going to make money. God told me started podcast, what does that even mean? Like that’s not going to make money and solve my problems. But instead of staying stuck in the murky water, I’m going to be the playdough. Today, I’m just going to show up, even though I don’t understand the outcome. And that’s the most uncomfortable thing you’ll ever do. And it’s the most important thing that you can ever do. If you really truly want to step up into who God’s asking you to be. Make a difference for your own life because he wants you to have a I believe God wants us to have a fruitful, blessed life so we can bless others. And if we’re doing it from the right heart space, there’s a lot in store for you that you don’t even know. Like the goals of where I sit in my business were never written down because they’re too big. I never wrote those things down. I never like excuse you want to do what? What’s this look like this year, Lord, like, it was too big to even fathom the dreams he had for me. But it took me saying, I’m gonna get out of the murky water. I’m drenched, I’m dirty. I don’t get it. I’m gonna go
Juliana Barbati 27:26
Mama, I hope that you can really learn from Stephanie story and see the whole you know, the possibilities that are out there, you know, if you if you’re willing to surrender, let go of people think and Stephanie, if you have any, like less quit like any words. Any last words you want to say to this mama? To just let it be easy surrender and trust God and take messy action, like what is the message?
Stefanie Gass 27:54
You know, what popped into my heart just now is I heard the other day hope. And you said the word hope. All hope means is excited anticipation of the unknown. That’s what hope is. And so if there’s one thing that I can tell you is that the journey is really uncomfortable. And it’s going to be really hard before it’s really fruitful. And you’re going to weed your garden for a long time before you have the beautiful flowers and the beautiful bloom right and the favour in your business. And it’s worth it. And I want you to grab on to hope. And what hope means is, I’m going to show up, dirty, messy, uncomfortable, in my fear. I’m going to have excited anticipation of the unknown. I’m going to show up. And I do this even though I am unsure of the when I am unsure of the how, and I am unsure of the what. I’m just going to show up and do my best today and through Holy Spirit. I’ll have the strength and the confidence to do it. Well.
Juliana Barbati 28:59
Amen. Steph, how can my women connect with you and learn more from you?
Stefanie Gass 29:05
Yes, a while you guys this was so fun. And if you’re a faith led woman who really wants to get clarity on your calling, so you can build a profitable online business. And the business model that I teach is what you see through Juliana and myself it’s you get clarity, then you start a podcast so that you can hang out and your company’s behind a mic braless and flawless and spit your best life. Yeah as it when your kids come in. And then passive courses, programmes or coaching to monetize the business right? So that’s what I teach all centred on a god foundation and a Christ like foundation of building your business because that’s just who I am. And that’s what I believe. And so I’d love for you to come hang out with me on my show the Stefanie Gass Show. It’s STEFANIE GASS. And then my website is stefaniegass.com. I have a free clarity workshop. I have a bunch of free gifts for you guys over there, so that’s where I’m at.
Juliana Barbati 29:59
Oh my gosh. So awesome stuff. Thank you so much for blessing us. You’re amazing.
Stefanie Gass 30:03
You’re so welcome. Thank you.
Juliana Barbati 30:06
Mama, I really hope that that interview blessed you in some way that you can see that pivoting and changing and evolving. There’s a reason that those things happen. Okay, we are here on this planet accumulating a wealth of knowledge. And once you stop judging yourself for what could have been where might have been and what what are others gonna think of me and you just surrender and trust that God has a plan for you and you just take the next right step. You don’t have to know the next you know, path for you to get to the final destination but just take the next right step. Okay. Once you know that, you can take the next step into getting a little bit closer to your end goal. Then your life’s gonna get so much better mama, the thing is are going to start making sense for you and surrender know that God is love the universe is love and there is a plan for you. Okay, and you just need to trust and you just need to continue doing the right thing showing up being true to yourself listening to you when things are not in alignment and just making those shifts and understanding that everything’s okay nothing is permanent. And you got this like you got this anyway mama i really hope you enjoyed this episode again and until next time, remember you’re capable you’re strong you can do hard things and and until next time, may you be wrapped in peace loving kindness and I will catch you in the next episode. Bye.
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